Tuesday, May 15, 2007

Weatherup Emmigrants and Immigrants

I thought that a working list of all known Weatherup emmigrations/immigrations might be helpful. Please post them here if you know of any.

26 comments:

Gecko said...

ok, here we go:

* First of we have the whole Weatherup/Haskill line(s) who would of seem to of come to Canada 1820s or 1830s but possibly 1840s. (Thomas & Elizabeth and their Haskill spouses). And where do they fit in the larger tree?
* The ancestors of the Northern New York Weatherups supposedly came aboard the annie in 1845 or 1847 (which is it? Does any one have a passenger list for the annie?) via Quebec (and also possibly with a stop over in Nova Scotia). This included John Weatherup (widow of Sally Watson) and his son Thomas Weatherup and Thomas's 1st wife (& cousin) Mary Weatherup (who died either during that stopover or else shortly after arriving in NY) and their children (John "Jack", James, Sarah/Sally, and maybe Alexander)
* Then there is the ancestors of the Western New York Weatherups (my line) John B. Weatherup, his wife Margaret Houston/Huston, their children of the time (the eldest daughter for sure, maybe also Susan and or Robert depending on exactly when it was) and Margaret's father Robert. This would seem to be 1847-1849 time frame (or are we wrong and this was 1845, meaning Kittie was born on this side of the pond?).
* sometime before 1861 George Weatherup moved from England to Ontario. Where does he fit in the larger tree?
* Will just told me that about 1900 one of the sons of James Weatherup (b. 1857) emigrated from Antrim about 1900 (possibly either Edwin or Walter)
* In 1911 James Kirk (I think my record of Krik is a typo Miller Irwin "Riley" Weatherup moved from Antrim to Canada.
* About 1920 Anthony Weatherup moved from Antrim to the west coast of the USA and in 1927 his brother Marriot Donald Weatherup moved to Australia and Anthony's daughter Mary later moved to London.
* Since 1938 some of the decendents of John Weatherup of Antrim have dispersed through England and Scotland (not sure if this would be considered emmigration/immigration in the international sense we are interested in here since Northern Ireland, England, and Scotland are all home countries of the UK, but what the hey).
* Within the 20th century a Weatherup supposedly moved from Antrim 'back to' Scotland, another moved to the states, and two siblings (Gordon & Alexandria) moved to Ontario

We also have the 1832 land patent of 100 acres in Dummer, Newcastle, Ontario to a dischared gunner named John Witherup, is this a Weatherup?
Plus of course there are the various rumours-
About two Weatherup brothers comeing to America from Scotland to serve as officers in the American Revolution and settling in back bay Boston.
And if the family is Scotch-Irish/Ulster Scots (not confirmed) then there would be at some point the move from Scotland to Ireland. Which also brings up that Ione Weatherup Klotz chart thing claiming the Weatherup's came to Scotland with the Stuart clan.

Anyone have any others?

It also raises the question asked previously, did the New York Weatherup's and one or more of the Canadia Weatherup's immigrated together down the St. Lawrence as some of the stories go? Or was it seperate moves?

Sue said...

This information was given to me by another Weatherup family line.

'My Weatherups start (or end depending on how you want to look at it!) with a

Thomas Weatherup - B. abt 1826 place unknown but either England or Ireland depending on the record. - D. 27 Apr 1904 in Ops Twp., Victoria County, Ontario

He Married - Wealthy Haskill - B. 1820 in Hope Twp, Newcastle District, Upper Canada ( now Durham County, Ontario) D. 30 Sep 1883 in Hope Twp, Durham Co. Ontario

Marriage About 1844 in Hope Twp, Durham .

Their children were: John 1845 - 1929, Thomas 1850 - 1903, Rebecca 1854 - ?, M. Ann 1860 -?

Ephraim James - 1868 - 1927

My line contiues with Thomas b. 1850 who Married Agnes Curtis (B 1855 d 1942). They married in Lindsay Ontario - 17 Aug 1874

Their Children were Walter Ernest - 1875 - ?, Clara Sabina 1878 - ?, Ida Alberta 1880 - 1957, Cora Myrtle 1883 - 1896, Joseph Roswell Lucerne 1895 - ?'

Any use to anyone else? Sue

ladynena said...

Hey People, my names SaLeanna Leigh Weatherup. So yea... im part of the Weatherup family. And its really interesting learning about my family and ancestors. My last name comes from my father of course Scott Weatherup. I have 3 sisters. Theres Jeriica Weatherup, Teatherlea Weatherup, and then my sister Darbie Weatherup. We of course live in Ny. I have a couple cousins here and there but I dont really know them. But for now thats all I can give you. BYE

noni said...

Hi there. my name is Noni Weatherup daughter of Jon Dalby Weatherup who is a son of Donald Malcolm Weatherup late of Ireland who migrated to Australia early 1900's. I have 3 siblings, 1 with remaining name Weatherup - Anna Joy weatherup. I have 1 uncle in Townsville, Australia - Malcolm Weatherup.
Thats All i can think of for now.
Thanks.

Wesley said...

My maternal Grandmother's maiden name was Weatherup. Her paternal Grandfather was Alexander, and his father was Thomas. I grew up in northern New York, immediately below the St.Lawrence river. I would like to know as much information as there is about the family tree before Alexander and Thomas, and documentation to support it, please. Pre-Famine information has been desperately sought by our family.

Joady said...

My name is Joady weatherup, I live just south of Sydney Australia.
My father is Malcolm Weatherup, my uncle is Jon Weatherup, their my father my grandfather was Donald Weatherup, who came to Australia from Carrick Fergus in the 1920s. I believe he had two sisters - Jane and Agnes who remained in Ireland, and were connected to the irish linen mill in carrick Fergus.
I have a copy of grandfather's birth certificate (somewhere!). If anyone expresses interest I can dig it out.

Gecko said...

SaLeanna- If you could tell us what part of NY that would probably do a lot to help narrow it down, as there are two major and several minor branches of Weatherups in different parts of NY state that we know of.

Noni & Joady- Greetings! Apparently someone from your branch of the Weatherup family has been in touch with Will Weatherup in England, because he provided us with info on the Aussie Weatherup's (though we apparently had some of your names spelled wrong, for example we had your grandfather Donald Malcolm Weatherup as Marriot Donald Weatherup). From your grandfather Donald your tree climbs up as follows:
Donald M. Weatherup is son of John Weatherup (1848-1935) however he was married twice so I don't know which wife would be your ancestor... That birth certificate could help clear that up.
John Weatherup (1848-1935) in turn is the son of James Weatherup (1812-1889) and his third wife Elizabeth Donald.
James is the son of John Weatherup (1785-1843) & Susan Johnson, my GGGGGrandparents whom you can read about on my Weatherup page (which I need to update).

Wesley- We can already roughly figure out where you fit in, as the Thomas you mention is pretty well known to us as the progenitor of the Northern New York Line of Weatherups. I don't have too much in the way of documentation but I can send you some family bible records if you send me your email address, and Bryan might have more as that is his branch.

to all- I expect to be updating (and simplifying) this list of Weatherup immigrants (somewhat) soon, thanks to new info uncovered by Sue.

BryanWxup said...

Gecko, I would like to see how the Thomas William Weatherup you described (son of John Weatherup/Sally Watson, married to Mary in Governor, NY who ran the "Brasie Corners" Cheese Factory up to 1889) differs or is similar to the Thomas/Mary Weatherup I have at the top of my tree so far.

The Thomas/Mary I have had 3 children named Ione, Irving and Ivan (all deceased):

Thomas/Mary had 1. Ione who married Brock Klotz and had 2 boys, Richard and Steven in oregon.

Thomas/Mary had 2. Irving, who was married to (?) and had Stewart now divorced, Wendy who married Phil in CA, Bonnie who married Larry Smith in Albany, and Jeannie who maried Kibbon in UT

Thomas/Mary had 3. Ivan (1917-2006) who married Marion Fernald (1914+) and had Linda (1943+), Craig (1945+) and Mark (1948+), [MY FATHER].

JoAnne said...

My grandfather, Oakland Joseph Weatherup married Ann Seymour. They lived in DeKalb Junction, New York - a hamlet outside of Canton, New York. They had five children:Oakland Joseph(my father), David, Dorothy, Nancy, and Phillip. My understanding is that my grandfather had about 11 siblings - possibly 12. I am not certain of whom to contact for more detailed information.

JoAnne said...

My grandfather, Oakland Joseph Weatherup married Ann Seymour. They lived in DeKalb Junction, New York - a hamlet outside of Canton, New York. They had five children:Oakland Joseph(my father), David, Dorothy, Nancy, and Phillip. My understanding is that my grandfather had about 11 siblings - possibly 12. I am not certain of whom to contact for more detailed information.

BryanWxup said...

If anyone is interested in taking a look at the itsourtree.com account, he/she will find many Weatherup additions and hopefully, over time with a little effort, make these questions answered finally.

Gecko said...

Sorry for not replying sooner, I haven't been doing anything genealogy related for some time now.

JoAnne- I sent you a message via email (I think I have the right address) but I'll recap here- I've previously been in contact with some relatives of yours and already have you in the tree. Actually one of those 11 siblings of your grandfather is the Thomas William that Bryan is talking about. But is the Nancy you mention the same as Anne Mary Spero (formerly Truax, maiden name Weatherup)?

Bryan- I believe the Thomas Weatherup (no info on his middle name, 1819-1894, son of John Weatherup and Sarah Watson) that I mentioned, is the grandfather of the Thomas William Weatherup whom you discussed, via his son Alexander from Thomas' [the Thomas 1819-1894] second marriage to Eliza Whiteford (caution- there was also another son also named Alexander from his first marriage who died as an infant).

A fair bit of the info you posted is new to me, so I'll look it over and add that before I send you the master file.

How do you access this 'itsourtree.com' tree? I joined the site (actually dynastry.com) and when I do a search I can see you and others listed but I don't see how to view or join "your" tree, just how to build "my" tree.

Nancy Weatherup said...

I would like to add another child, John Donald Weatherup, to the abovementioned Anthony (Patterson) Weatherup's family. John (more usually known by his middle name, Donald.) was born in 1907 in Blairgowrie, Scotland to Anthony and his wife, Frances Louisa (nee ; Morrison) He died in 2000 at Pasadena, CA.. Some confusion also appears to exist about Anthony's (one of) brother Marriot. It is part of my family's lore that Marriot went to Australia. More than that about him is not known by this paeticular American branch of Weatherups. Anthony was my grandfather, John Donald, my father.

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Sorry for the multiple posts... browser was having trouble!

Nancy, I'm not sure if or when you might read this comment but I was searching the California unclaimed property database and there are several entries for a John Donald Weatherup in Pasadena and Long Beach. This sounds like it may be your late father. Worth looking into! Hope this finds you well.

Poptopheaven said...

Hi,
My name is Chris Nelson with Pop Top Heaven, Inc. I'm trying to find contact information for Nancy Weatherup of Long Beach California. It's regarding John Donald Weatherup, and is of the utmost importance. Just google our company name, and contact me if possible. Thank you.

Gecko said...

I had once come across a census record of a John Weatherup in New York City, but don't have that record saved. And I think I remember he was listed as a Tailor.

Now I've found a John Weatherup, 24, who emmigrated from Belfast to NYC in 1849

on pg 359 of "Famine Immigrants: List of Irish Immigrants Arriving at the Port of New York" he is amongst the many passengers on the
Mariane with a date of 02 July 1849 (though I'm not sure if that is the date it arrived in NYC or the date it left Belfast).

There's no one else with the same surname amongst the listed passengers.

Who was he? He's not the same as John B. Weatherup, ancestor of the Western NY Weatherup's and a tailor, right? He was supposed to have come along with his family [wife & kids], & possibly alongside his brothers/nephews via the St. Lawrence seaway.

Gecko said...

Also forgot- A question for Nancy-
regarding your father born 1907 in Scotland, son of Anthony Patterson Weatherup. Does this mean that Anthony P. moved to Scotland from Co. Antrim before having moved to the States in 1920?

If so that could be the one who moved "back to Scotland" that Alexandria was talking about.

Poptopheaven said...

Hi all,
Chris from Pop Top Heaven again. Has anyone had contact with Nancy? I really need her to contact me regarding her late father. I suppose I'll be giving up after this post :)

Gecko said...

One of these day's I'll get around to slogging through all the back comments on the other topics - I haven't left this site.

While looking for something else, I stumbled across what may be the earliest record of a Weatherup on this side of the Atlantic- 1792!

In the Journal of Presbyterian History, Volume 5, published by the Presbyterian Historical Society in 1910, on page 284, in the section of "Wm. Marshall's Register of Births and Baptisms in the Scotch Church of Philadelphia from the year 1767 to the year 1801" is the following entry:

James Weatherup Son to Alexander & Ann was born Octr. 20 and baptised Decr. sab 3rd 1792

(see here)

I checked an early Philly directory and it does show Alexander Weatherup, a House Carpenter ("Houfe-carpenter") on Green's Court (see pg. 149 of this).

Unknown said...

My name is Lucas Jones. I am the great grandson of John Donald Weatherup who was born in 1907 in Scotland. He came to the U.S. with his parents and siblings, and at some point got married to Vera Weathrup (maiden name unknown to me). They lived in Queens, NewYork City, New York. Later moving to Long Island.

I had a chance to know my great grandfather while he was still alive, I was about 6 or 7 when he talked to me about his life and I'm currently 23. please forgive me, as my young age at the time and my horrible attention span at the time may cause me to remember things out of order.
He told me that he came from a place in Scotland named Blairgowrie.
He stopped through Nova Scotia on his way to NewYork with his family.
He joined the U.S. Navy at some point and actually ended up in Hawaii for a time. I know that he caught in WWII but I don't know if he was in Hawaii during the Pearl Harbor attack.
However he did witness a parade for something called Hopalong Cassidy where they tossed a bunch of aluminum coins into the crowds. My grandpa got one and kept it, and it is now in my possession after it was passed down to me. According to my grandmother, Nancy, he wanted me to have it.

I have had some confusion in my own research as I discovered information about the line that went to Australia where I found out that not only is there such a place as Blairgowrie, Scotland, there is also a Blairgowrie, Australia.
I'd love to get more information about my family's history.
As information is very limited on both sides of my family tree.

Oh, and I just realized that my grandmother has posted here before me. Hahaha.

BryanWxup said...

This is very interesting and helpful information in the genealogy of the Weatherup family. Thanks for the update!

Poptopheaven said...

Lucas Ve or Nancy Weatherup, If you could please contact us or have your grandmother or family member contact us. It is regarding some important items we received that were your grandfather's and we would rather give them to a family member than turn them over to the sheriff's office for safe keeping. We are a dealership and bought a vehicle from a family member that had some of your grandfather's belongings in it. John Donald Weatherup, died in 2000. We can not get ahold of that family member and have been holding on to these belongings since 2011! Let me just say, it's pretty important. Reach us at poptopheaven@gmail.com

Unknown said...

Hi my name is Jennifer, I'm the daughter of Nancy Weatherup and Granddaughter of John Donald Weatherup. I was trying to find out if my Great grandfather Anthony Patterson Weatherup had any other siblings besides Donald Malcolm Weatherup ( Marriot Donald Weatherup )? If Anyone has this information I would love to get it.